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Old 11-20-09, 12:51 PM
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1st and goal from the 7 and 8

Have a rb averaging 9 yards a carry. Seems like a no brainer. Fox is a fucking idiot.
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Old 11-20-09, 01:59 PM
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Have a rb averaging 9 yards a carry. Seems like a no brainer. Fox is a fucking idiot.
Fox is not calling the plays. And since when does he not want to run the ball anyway?
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Old 11-20-09, 02:19 PM
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Somebody is an idiot and since every call goes through Fox the buck stops at him.
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Old 11-20-09, 02:21 PM
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Fox hired the motherfucker. Of course he's ultimately responsible for this big bowl of dog shit that we call an offense.
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Somebody is an idiot and since every call goes through Fox the buck stops at him.
That's funny, I didn't see Davidson consulting with Fox before every call.
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That's funny, I didn't see Davidson consulting with Fox before every call.
That headset isn't just a decoration.
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That headset isn't just a decoration.
So him wearing a headset proves that Fox was making Davidson call passes in the red zone? Whatever.

Fox did hire the guy, but that doesn't mean he's not letting him call the game the way he sees it. Everybody said the same thing about Henning. They said that Fox was holding him back and forcing him to be more conservative, yet he called fewer runs and more passes in 06 than he did in 05. If anything, Fox fired him because he wasn't running the ball enough.
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So him wearing a headset proves that Fox was making Davidson call passes in the red zone?
Where the fuck did I say that?
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That's funny, I didn't see Davidson consulting with Fox before every call.
They don't wear those headset for fashion purposes.

I've read it in several articles. Maybe it's not completely true but anyone who's followed this team knows that Fox has his hand in it. He's the head coach.
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Where the fuck did I say that?
Well what was your point then?
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Well what was your point then?
Fox knows the calls going in. He can veto, make suggestions...what else did you think it meant?
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Well what was your point then?
I didn't mean Fox consulted him on every call but you seemed to dismiss fox having any input at all.
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what else did you think it meant?
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Have you folks ever heard John Fox talk? If you have, then you know that he wants to run the ball above all else. It makes no sense whatsoever to assume that Fox is going against everything he believes in just because he wants to override Jeff Davidson.

If you have some evidence that proves your theory though...lay it on me.
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Old 11-22-09, 08:18 PM
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At any point in the gme, Fox could have said to Davidson, "we need to run the ball more."

On any specific call, he could have said "check to a run."

He's done it before.
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I really think they're trying to get Jake some easy TD passes to help even out the TD/INT differential.
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Fox is not calling the plays. And since when does he not want to run the ball anyway?
He has hired or a least has a say in the idiot that does.
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Have you folks ever heard John Fox talk? If you have, then you know that he wants to run the ball above all else. It makes no sense whatsoever to assume that Fox is going against everything he believes in just because he wants to override Jeff Davidson.

If you have some evidence that proves your theory though...lay it on me.
Nobody said that John Fox is overriding the run plays, no idea where you got that. The gripe is that as a run first guy it's Surprising that Fox isn't pushing the run in the described situation.
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I really think they're trying to get Jake some easy TD passes to help even out the TD/INT differential.
Bears just did this with Cutler. Big run to get inside the ten, then they started throwing short passes. I think coaches really do care about this shit, especially when the QB has a massive contract.
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Nobody said that John Fox is overriding the run plays, no idea where you got that. The gripe is that as a run first guy it's Surprising that Fox isn't pushing the run in the described situation.
Well that I can understand, but the way the initial post was worded, it implied that Fox was actually doing the play calling, and there was no mention of Davidson at all. That's where I got that from.

Maybe Fox just wanted to let his OC call the game the way he saw fit, after all the criticism he got for putting handcuffs on Delhomme in the Saints game, IDK. I do know that the OC has to be accountable too.
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